diff --git a/Usenet-news.md b/Usenet-news.md
index f4ae022..45d652f 100644
--- a/Usenet-news.md
+++ b/Usenet-news.md
@@ -7,6 +7,11 @@ it's `news.tilde.club`.
 [http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Help/News/PineNews.html](tutorial) might help.
 You can also read the [FAQ from U Washington](http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/news.html).
 
+In Pine do 'S' for setup, 'C' for config, then 
+set 'NNTP Server (for news)' to news.tilde.club
+Then go back to the main menu, and pick Folder List,
+A for add, ^t for list
+
 `M-x gnus` in [[emacs]] can read news, but you better know [[emacs]] first before you start.
 
 [[lynx]] reads news, a la `lynx news://news.tilde.club/tilde.general`. It can even post news, but you have to design your own headers.
diff --git a/Wish-list.md b/Wish-list.md
index ba9be4d..185f638 100644
--- a/Wish-list.md
+++ b/Wish-list.md
@@ -4,4 +4,5 @@ Put your wish here, and someone will work on it.
 
 * [[IRC]] - tutorials; using [[ssh]] port forwarding to run desktop clients
 * [[wiki]] - self-hosted on tilde.club? maybe use Gollum? (perhaps just clone a copy of the wiki to a place on tilde?)
-* [[git]] -  good tutorials for the beginner and good recipes for the advanced user
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+* [[git]] -  good tutorials for the beginner and good recipes for the advanced user
+* [[vim]] - Markdown-aware markup that knows about Github wiki markup